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I’ve been trying to find out who to write to at Visa and PayPal to protest their violation of my democratic right to freedom of expression and freedom of speech, which I want to exercise by supporting Julian Assange and WikiLeaks.

I was actually naïve enough to believe I could do that…that I was free to send him my donation. Reality certainly hit me hard…like millions of other Canadians I have found myself dictated to by a mighty corporation or two, Visa, PayPal and MasterCard, as to whom I can and cannot support.

What’s worse, while there is a mass violation of millions of Canadian’s right to express their support, there is not a single peep from our government!

I wrote directly to RBC Visa (Royal Bank Visa) and received the responses at the bottom of this post. I wrote to PayPal and obviously they’ve blown me off because there’s not a peep from them.

What a bunch of !#$$%%, as my father would have said. Hiding behind a large corporate fog, claiming they have no influence until the annual meeting of Visa shareholders and if I want to talk with Visa about this violation of my basic freedoms, I can do it at the time of their shareholders’ meeting and what’s more, I need to find out through other sources when that meeting is.

The man (Assange), has never been charged with anything to do with espionage, criminal activity, etc. It’s pretty clear to everyone that he is being framed with these ‘sexual’ charges. While I can use PayPal and Visa to support KKK, pornographers, child molesters and terrorists cells, I cannot support Assange, whose only ‘crime’ was to disseminate information he received from others….as in journalism. It seems the big wigs in US government are stopping at nothing…many people are worried that ‘nothing’ means that they will eventually kill him off.

I hate to be cynical, but this is the nest of people who let loose the CIA and other conscience-less power dealers every time they want to generate more income or get more power somewhere in the world.

I want to support Assange because I am ashamed that all these horrible crimes against humanity, from bank manipulations that cause horrific hardship in people’s lives to illegal wars, are done in my name as a citizen of a country that supports such activity. There should be no secrets from me when they are acting in my name as a citizen of a free country…ever.

According to Norman Solomon, author of War Made Easy: How Presidents and Pundits Keep Spinning us to Death, 15% of the casualties in WW1 were civilians, 65% in WW2 and now more than 90% of the casualties in Iraq have been civilians. Notice the trend? Soon the only way to be sure you are safe will be to enlist in the military!

I happened to come upon a list of the characteristics of a ‘psychopath’ by Michael Conner, Psy.D. (2001). Here are some from that list and I leave it to your imagination as to how well these characteristics fit the ‘leaders’ you know:

• superficial charm (politicians and bankers???)
• self-centered & self-important (politicians, bankers and CEOs????)
• deceptive behavior & lying (ditto???)
• conning & manipulative (ditto???)
• little remorse or guilt (ditto???)
• shallow emotional response (notice how so on National TV as they scurry to cover up their misdeeds)
• callous with a lack of empathy (who cares if 90% of the casualties in Iraq were civilians?)
• living off others or predatory attitude (Big Business, Banks, Monsanto, etc with headliner politicians working for them???)
• poor self-control (as in telling the public anything and everything, none of which is true) Check out some pretty enlightening quotes at Question War which tell us exactly how these people think and feel.
.promiscuous sexual behavior (I’m thinking Clinton and Edwards here and don’t know about the others, but I’ll bet you could have a long list if you wanted to research it)
• early behavioral problems (think the Bush dynasty, lead by Prescott Bush, the patriarch of the Bush dynasty, who said in an interview in 1966: “There are three things to remember: claim everything [that is supposedly good], explain nothing [about what you do behind people’s back], [and] deny everything [when your wrongdoings are revealed].” I believe we are at the ‘deny everything stage now’.
• lack of realistic long term goals (this we’ve all seen for ourselves)
• impulsive lifestyle (start a war or two, ask questions later)
• irresponsible behavior (Iraq, Afganistan, Vietnam, Monsanto, BP, etc)
• blaming others for their actions (starting with Julian Assange and WikiLeaks)
• varied criminal activity (lying, murdering in the name of ‘protecting us’, flying the Bin Laden family out of US without interrogation first…you get the drift)

Enjoy this wonderful article in the “>Huffington Post on the hipocrisies and travesties launched in our names.

In Canada it seems, we sit quietly hoping that we won’t be affected by the chaos around the world… the indifference probably the result of fluoride in the water, causing us to be complacent and placid (side effects of fluoride known since the days of Stalin).

If every conscious American and Canadian would write a protest letter to their heads of government and to these dictator companies, we may avert a world-wide takeover of what’s left of our democracies. Bless people like Assange who have the courage to put their entire lives (he may get killed over this) on the line to make the truth percolate to the top. I can’t wait for him to release information about the robber bankers and the destructive systems they have foisted on us…can’t wait 

Conversation with RBC Visa:
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Dear Ms. Joubarne:

My name is Brad, and I’m happy to continue our conversation about Visa Inc.

Thanks for following up–according to Visa’s corporate site, the last annual meeting was held January 20, 2010. It’s likely the next meeting will be held around that time.

You can find Visa Inc.’s investor relations page here:

http://investor.visa.com

I would suggest keeping an eye on it to see when the next annual meeting is scheduled.

Thanks for contacting us, Ms. Joubarne, and I trust I’ve pointed you in the right direction. We’ll be happy to help you again if there’s anything else you’d like to discuss.

If you prefer, you can call us any time at 1-800-769-2512. Also, look for the option to chat live with us on select pages on www.rbcroyalbank.com .

Sincerely,

Brad Kaine
Customer Service Representative
Royal Bank of Canada

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— Original Message —
From: “Grace Joubarne”
Received: 12/10/10 8:26:51 PM EST
To: “‘RBC Card Products'”
Subject: RE: Your RBC Royal Bank Credit Card Inquiry
Thank you Brad.
Can you advise when the next shareholders meeting is…the one you mentioned that would allow RBC to bring our protests to Visa’s attention?
RBC is associated with a very undemocratic, tyrannical enterprise. Maybe RBC feels it has to accept that sort of behavior, but I’m a little person and I don’t. That will be the day when I accept that a company like Visa is going to treat me as though I have no right to decide what/who I support with my money.

I look forward to your advisement about this ‘annual meeting’.

I would also appreciate it if you could provide me with the direct address (email or snail mail) where I can personally protest to Visa.

Grace Joubarne

From: RBC Card Products [mailto:cardprod@rbc.com]
Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 8:13 PM
To: graceplacewellness@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Your RBC Royal Bank Credit Card Inquiry <<#1483-1384957#>>

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Dear Ms. Joubarne:

My name is Brad, and I appreciate your concern regarding credit card processors’ recent decision regarding Wikileaks.

I would like to thank you, first, for taking the time to write in about this. I know that it’s frustrating to be told who you can or cannot give your money to–and I want to assure you that if it were up to us here at RBC, we wouldn’t prevent you from directing your disposable income to the philanthropic cause of your choice.

That said–as you know, the decision was made by Visa Inc. RBC Royal Bank only sends out the money to pay the merchant/organisation–the Visa network is what makes sure that the payment actually arrives. Unfortunately, Visa has decided not to process any charge to WikiLeaks–which means that since they won’t allow WikiLeaks to receive money, there’s no point in charging it to your RBC credit card.

At the same time, I’ve documented your concern for the RBC feedback department. While we don’t have total control over Visa Inc, we are a shareholder along with every other Visa bank. If enough clients like you raise their voices about an issue they consider to be alarming, there’s little doubt it will become an issue at the next annual meeting.

Thanks for contacting us, Ms. Joubarne, and we appreciate your continued business with RBC Royal Bank. We’ll be happy to help you again if there’s anything else you’d like to discuss.

If you prefer, you can call us any time at 1-800-769-2512. Also, look for the option to chat live with us on select pages on www.rbcroyalbank.com .

Sincerely,

Brad Kaine
Customer Service Representative
Royal Bank of Canada

Royal Bank of Canada, © 2010
Privacy & Security | Legal | Accessibility | Contact Us

• – Regular, unencrypted email is not secure. Never include personal or confidential information in a regular email.
• – To discuss your personal information with us safely, send us a message via the RBC Royal Bank Online Banking message centre or one of our other secure message centres, or contact us by phone.
• – RBC will never send a regular email that asks you to provide, confirm or verify personal, login or account information. Also, RBC will never include a link to an online service in a regular email and ask you to sign in using that link. If you receive an email of this type, that appears to be from RBC, please forward it to information.security@rbc.com and then delete it. For more information please visit Email & Website Fraud.

— Original Message —
From: Contact.Us@uapwsp15.app.rbc.com
Received: 12/10/10 12:59:56 PM EST
To: cardprod@rbc.com
Subject: Your RBC Royal Bank Credit Card Inquiry

Date : Fri Dec 10 12:58:51 2010
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Name-First Name : Grace
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Email : graceplacewellness@gmail.com
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Comments :
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I am a Visa credit card account holder and fervent blogger. I am, by way
of this letter, registering my absolute fury over Visa’s anti-democratic
behavior…that you would think for one minute that you have the right to
interfere with my support of any person or organization I choose,
particularly when that person and organization has never been found guilty
of any crime is very upsetting.

I am giving Visa a week to reverse their decision to engage in tyrannical
and controlling behavior otherwise I am going to apply for and use a non
MasterCard and non-Visa affliated credit card. And, I will encourage all
my blog readers to do the same en-masse.

I look forward to your speedy response to my concerns,

Grace Joubarne, CCHt, LAPHP, MH
613-422-7027 or 1-888-390-3553

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